Black Hills

[olderthandirt]

Anyone use Black Hills ammo/

Any good and is it worth the price?

[recoilguy]

Black hills ammo is pretty nice ammo. Is it worth the money? I think so. It is not real expensive and it isn't bought at Walmart. I may start a thread on here after I get a feel for the people about buying ammo at Walmart. Nothing infuriates me more then being in the LGS and seeing someone looking at a gun then bitc#ing about there being no bullets at Walmart. Walmart isn't a gun store if you will not support your local gun store you will have nowhere to buy guns. Oh snap I almost started one now.

Black Hills ammo is pretty clean shooting and softer then AE or WWB. It does make a good power factor and it is reliable. What are you going to use it for? That will tell yu if it is worth the price.

RCG

[dvmcmr]

I thought it was along the lines of buffalo bores fodder, but I guess not?

[olderthandirt]

What are you going to use it for? That will tell yu if it is worth the price.


Practice, maybe some hunting. Self defense ammo is priceless if you ever need it. I'd gladly pay 10K for one shell if I knew I would need it but in all actuality I'll probably never need it. But I like to shoot just for the fun and sometimes the sport of shooting. So I want reliable, fairly clean burning ammo and I don't want to break the bank to get it.

So with saying that why would I want to pay $2-$5 more per box to buy at my LGS for the same brand ammo as I can buy at Wal-Mart ? There's no loyalty between a business and customers in any business. Businesses are out to make as much profit as possible not friends. There's no difference in buying ammo at Wal-mart than there is ordering a gun on-line because it's cheaper. There are trade offs and only the individual making the decision can decide if not having local support if theres a problem is worth the difference in price.

[Luvs2Play]

Our local gun stores were going to wal mart to buy ammo during the obumler shortage. When we were limited to 6 boxes per purchase, the gun shop had several people in line to buy all the ammo they got in. Then they took it and increased the price to make a ton more money off of their customers because they had ammo and wally world didn't. They wanted to charge me $35 for a box of .380 when walmart was $18. They also tried to tell me that primers were $5/100, that was the last time I visited the local gun store. They don't need my support, they are preying on the uninformed.

[recoilguy]

The thing about people is that we all have opinions. To me buying ammo at Walmart just pizzes me off. Some businesses are out to make as much profit as possible at the expense of their friends others are out to make as much profit as possible and retain their friends. 5 bucks for 100 primers is out of line but if it is all the choice you have and they can not replace them at any cost the value of what is in inventory goes up. A business does not place value of inventory on what it cost to buy it they place value on what it cost to replace it. This is not greedy capitalistic bas#@rds it is what the bank tells them they have too do. Buying ammo from walmart satisfies the consumers desire to get the best deal that particular instant. You can not buy guns at Wal Mart or quality holsters or reloading stuff or really anything of any quality. I will pay more then walmart prices to keep a LGS around because I would rather shop in a LGS then a Walmart, This is just my opinion I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. If I have learned anything it is Walmart shoppers are very loyal becuase of their immediate gratification. The result of Walmarts practices means nothing until it touches them personally. Money is important, walmart makes tons of it. America is a great country. I will be the first to defend wal Marts right to do business the way they do and I will defend anyones right to shop there to save 2 bucks an a 25 dollar purchase. I just choose not too. Nor do I think just becaause you can get it the cheapest that you should buy from there.

A story......I was a hockey coach for a traveling team of 13 and 14 year old young men. I needed sponsors to help with travel and uniform costs. The local tire store gave us 500 bucks and we put their name on the bottom trim of our jersey. Walmart gave us nothing. The walmart managers son played on my team......Bens kids were all grown and out of his home. My kids bough a lot of travel stuff from wal Mart. wal Mart said they can't do it they will not sponsor local teams. 2 years later my son needed tires on his first car. Bens Tire was $121 for bridgestones, wall mart was 88 bucks for some Korean brand. Both had a 30K warranty for the 2 tires. I had my son go to Bens and get his tires and pay 88 bucks to Ben, I paid the rest for him. Walmart only cares about the community so it can take from it. I gives back very little. Most people gladly give to them expecting nothing in return other then 2 extra bucks in their wallet.

I know most of you will buy 11 dollar 9mm bullets at walmart as opposed to 14 dollar ones at your LGS. It just makes me shake my head.

RCG

[olderthandirt]

I liked your reply and I agree with you for the most part. I owned and ran a business for 35 yrs and I tried to keep my prices as low as possible to retain my customer base. It came down to me sacrificing for my family to try and make someone else's family happy. It didn't work because there is no loyalty or very little in this country.
The day of the mom and pop stores are gone because they can't compete. As I gave up taking my family on vacations because my prices were slashed to keep my customer base,but my customers were taking more vacations at my expense. And when I couldn't couldn't go any lower on prices because I needed to make a small profit my customers abandoned me to save a couple more dollars. So where does it end and how? I don't have the extra cash to support someone else's business so the few extra dollars saved at the big box stores for ammo and accessories helps me afford the new gun from the LGS. If he can't sell enough guns to keep his business afloat he'll go out of business. And when there are no more LGS to buy guns from the big box stores will start selling them because they will make a profit on them. Wal-Mart sells long guns now and always have and when they see a need to sell handguns because they can make enough profit to cover the extra paper work and liability they will sell hand guns.

Opinions very and thats what makes this country great.